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The Spin Cycle–Episode 047

Our discussion in this episode is with Dr. Pauline Boss, the researcher who coined the term “ambiguous loss” in order to study unresolved grief–which is so anxiety-provoking and difficult to manage. Listen in as we talk about the pitfalls of resilience, the myth of closure, and how the pandemic has shaped our view of grief and anxiety. We also discuss concrete ways to process ambiguous loss and the anxiety it creates.


About Dr. Boss:

Since 1973, Dr. Pauline Boss has studied ambiguous loss, taught university students, practiced as a clinician, and trained family therapists, psychologists, counselors, and humanitarians around the world to help individuals and families suffering from the trauma of ambiguous loss and its grief that has no end. She has published more than 100 peer reviewed articles and chapters as well as 8 books translated into 17 languages and received the AAMFT Emeritus Award for extraordinary work and leadership in marriage and family therapy. Now, Dr. Boss is emeritus professor at the University of Minnesota. She is known worldwide for developing the theory of ambiguous loss and as a pioneer in the interdisciplinary study of family stress management. Her most recent book is titled The Myth of Closure: Ambiguous Loss in a Time of Pandemic and Change.

Pauline Boss’ website

Pauline Boss’ books



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